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Chrisnutjob 6:51 Mon Jan 15
Everton and Forest charged with financial breaches.

Everton and Nottingham Forest have been charged by the Premier League for allegedly breaking financial rules.

Both clubs have been referred to an independent commission for alleged breaches of profit and sustainability rules.

Got no axe to grind against Forest. Everton though, another story. Bye bye blue noses

goose 6:56 Mon Jan 15
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cheeky bid for Calvert-Lewin?

i'm torn on this one, i don't wanna see a PL club relegated because of this............ especially while City and Chelsea are still going unpunished (thus far).
but then i hate everton and i hate scousers so the other part of me thinks 'fuck them'.

Lee Trundle 7:02 Mon Jan 15
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My mate reckons a few clubs will have to unload a couple of HOMEGROWN players to get within the FFP limits this summer.

Which, hopefully, works out well for us seeing as most of ours aren't good enough and are 40 years old and are out of contract at the end of the season.

RBshorty 7:26 Mon Jan 15
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The Premier League are shit scared of the government sticking their oar with oversight and have to show that they have got their house in order. Man City lawyers will kick the can down the road for at least the next few seasons. So the suit’s are going for the low hanging fruit. Fortunately for us the Rice deal come at the right time.

Far Cough 7:31 Mon Jan 15
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Bet you Dyche is going mental.

Nutsin 8:03 Mon Jan 15
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Glad to hear they are clamping down finally, however how have Chelsea and City gotten away with it so far?
Or are they untouchable because of fear of them moving to a Super league if pressed?

southbankbornnbred 8:11 Mon Jan 15
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Going to get interesting now, this. Because, for Everton at least, this latest charge indicates they have been in breach of FFP for successive years.

Their 10 point deduction relates to 2021-22 and this latest charge relates to 2022-23, when it is alleged they still couldn't balance their books.

Leicester are already going bonkers behind the scenes, I hear, as they were relegated after pulling their purse strings tight (as required under the rules) when they hit financial problems. So they seem to want Everton boshed for regular breaches.

Gut feeling is that this is all going to end with the threat of civil court action (as well as Premier League sanctions), like ours did with Sheffield United after Tevez. We settled up before it got to any court or tribunal, didn't we?

It is getting mad now. I get why Everton are angry that the likes of Man City don't seem to have been punished while they have. But equally, the likes of Leicester and Palace really cut their costs when the financial pinch kicked in, unlike Everton. Leicester pretty much got relegated because they did that.

Fuck 'em all. Is there a way we can work this so that we end up with another trophy..?

Fauxstralian 8:23 Mon Jan 15
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This is straight forward case of losses being over the permitted limit and nothing to do with City & Chelsea
Briefly I understand their breaches are :
City - have made up income by having associated MATES sponsor things with the funding provided through the back door by the oil cunts
Chelsea - when the gangster was owner they made payments off the books rather than include them as Chelsea costs to fudge their figures

As regards the losses and sustainability breaches by Everton & Forest these are a matter of fact where over a 3 year period they have lost > £105m.
Everton were in breach over a 3 year period and when you add the current year its a new period where they have made NO ATTEMPT to repair the damage. 10 pts penalty for the first breach .... should be a further 20pts on top for the serial and unrepentant cheats.
Forest? Just a basic 10 points though I understand they might argue some of the spending was before they were a Premier league club

Steady 8:30 Mon Jan 15
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Regardless of who’s right or wrong, who’s been fairly treated or not …… wouldn’t it be great if Everton went down

Gary Strodders shank 8:59 Mon Jan 15
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Everton could well be playing championship football when they open that brand new stadium in 2025/26.
It won't be there fault of course

J.Riddle 9:27 Mon Jan 15
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So if Everton are deducted points for a separate year the points deduction will take place in a separate season? Next year then?

Joe C 9:34 Mon Jan 15
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Everything has to be done my 24th May so it's in place for the coming season - the 25th this year is when the promoted teams get their license to play in the PL

Means it could be decided after the last game of the season - which is obviously shit

wd40 9:42 Mon Jan 15
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OUR house is in order !


so remember that before slagging off our owners every other day.

J.Riddle 9:46 Mon Jan 15
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Wd40 true, probably made a lot easier by trousering the Boleyn money.

Gaffer58 9:58 Mon Jan 15
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Those that understand accounts, never had enough money to worry about them, will explain it easily but I have read that say Newcastle sell a home grown player for £20 million that’s classed as pure profit, so that then they can buy someone for £20 million and spread the cost over 4/5 years, that helps keep them in FFP rules, in fact VAR is probably easier to understand. I think that’s probably why Chelsea have been buying these players but giving them 8 year contracts.

rumford 11:14 Mon Jan 15
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Gaffer58
That's part of the problem mate but Newcastle are complaing that their owners have money which they can't spend. As you can only overspend 105m over 3 seasons .Which of course they think is too restrictive. Which of doesn't amount to much in transfer market these days.
They also state that at the moment their revenue of 250m, which was similar to ours,but way behind the 700m revenue received by Man City last financial year.
They therefore say they may have take the West Ham route and and generate more revenue by selling one of their best players and spread the cost of their next purchase over a number of years like you said.

Westside 12:01 Tue Jan 16
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Fauxstralian 8.23pm.

That's a pretty good summary.

Forest's allowable losses though, are only £61 million (as opposed to the normal £105 million), as for the 3 year period under review (ending in 2022/23) they were only a Premier League side for one season (allowable loss, reduced by £22 million, for each season not in the Premier League).

Westside 12:07 Tue Jan 16
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Gaffer 58, 9.58pm

That's largely correct. We for instance have made £100 million+ profit this season on selling Declan, being a home grown player.

Player amortisation over a longer period, does reduce a club's exposure to FFP, but UEFA's limit has always been 5 years (regardless of what the player signed for) and the Premier League, voted to reduce the maximum to 5 years, in December last year.

zico 1:04 Tue Jan 16
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Am I wrong in thinking why don't they just put a ceiling per season on player purchases for all clubs. Say 10million with obviously on limit on income from selling players. In one rule you would also then limit any players value to 100 million. Would arguably make a more level playing field and quash the outlandish increase in transfer fees and expenditure. Doable or an unworkable idea?

zico 1:06 Tue Jan 16
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I meant 100 million not 10!

Sydney_Iron 1:23 Tue Jan 16
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Forest is a little bit interesting i read!

They would have been all right if they sold Johnson to Brentford prior to June, but they waited until August and got an extra $10m for selling to Spurs.

Should they lose points for doing good business? Which is what FFP wants to promote teams to remain profitable isnt it?

Maybe a slap on the wrist and a warning, imagine if this had been a "big 6" club, would never have got this far i suspect, all kinds of excuses would have been made.

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